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Bethenny Frankel had some choice words for Jon Gosselin during a segment the duo taped together for The Insider that aired Tuesday.

Never shy to give her opinion, The Real Housewives of NYC star told Jon, “I think you’re defeated. You need to pull yourself up from your bootstraps and get back to your kids and get your crap together.” Bethenny continued, “You need to pull it together.”

Jon– who halted production on Kate Plus 8 – replied, “That’s what I am trying to do.”

“Everyone’s mad at you right now,” sneered Bethenny, 38. She goes on, “America has a big problem with the fact that [your kids] are growing up on a television show. You never know what the effects will be 20 years from now.”

Referring to some of Jon’s latest antics, Bethenny added – “It looks like you went through a rebellious phase.”

Jon responded, “Of course. I went from [age] 32 to 23. My therapist has told me that. My therapist told me I went from 32 to 23.”

In other news, Kate Gosselin refuted Jon’s claims that the show was harmful to their kids. Kate said Monday on the Today show. “Times eight, there was wailing and sobbing. They love the crew, they love the interaction, they love the events. It is not harmful to them. They are angry.”

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