Podcaster Kylie Kelce, questioned her brother-in-law, Travis Kelce, on his relationship with Taylor Swift. On Wednesday, December 24, the podcaster appeared on her husband, Jason, and his brother’s podcast, New Heights.
Kylie didn’t flinch when her husband claimed she was “dethroned by Travis’ better half.” Taylor and Travis started dating in 2023 and became engaged in August of this year.
Do Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift really not argue?

In early December, when actor George Clooney appeared on New Heights, Travis asked him if it was true that he and wife Amal never argue. When George insisted it was true, Travis responded that he has “never once” argued with Taylor during their relationship.
Kyllie mentioned this viral clip during her appearance on New Heights Wednesday. Travis jokingly responded, “Defensive guys? Yeah, I fight. I’m a fighter in that sense of it. But me and Tay, we definitely don’t fight.”
Taylor first appeared on the brothers’ podcast early this year. During her appearance, she announced her new album, The Life of a Showgirl. She also spoke about her groundbreaking Eras Tour and revealed details on her and Travis’ relationship.
Opening up about meeting Taylor for the first time at a 2024 game, Jason said, “Did you know I was told to be on my best behavior?” She replied, “I didn’t know what you were told. I did know that one of the first things I saw you say to Kylie [was], ‘I was just shotgunning beers with the Bills Mafia and I really want to go through one of the fire tables.’ … She goes, ‘OK. Can we not do that right now?’”
Taylor then said, “Since then, I’ve heard her say that exact thing to your 4-year-old. I meet you, you’re exactly as I thought you would be. Kylie is exactly as I thought she would be. The realest. The smartest, the coolest. You’re fantastic.”
Travis and the Chiefs play the Denver Broncos at Kansas City’s Arrowhead Stadium tomorrow at 8:15 p.m. ET.
TELL US – DO TAYLOR AND TRAVIS EVER FIGHT?
