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“I think when the camera follows you for months, that they really do get an accurate picture of who you are” – Lisa Vanderpump.
“I mean you see the footage. The footage doesn’t lie and in this arena, when the cameras are there, if they did see something negative, they would show it” – Lisa Vanderpump.
Please feel free to keep the above quotes in mind as you reflect back on the whole season and the reunion episodes. Following a pretty successful first season, the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills took a dark turn on the finale episode. Fast forward to 2 weeks later, and it is finally over. Oh yes! And not a minute too soon.
With that said, let’s get right to the recap! Part 2 of the reunion picks up where part 1 ended, with Camille vs Kyle. “What do you think Kyle has done to your reputation?” asks Andy to Camille, a question I really wished he would have asked Kim. Camille feels Kyle is the reason the world thinks she’s delusional while Kyle is adamant it was all Camille’s doing.
The topic of the she-said she-said drama is brought up once again, and Kim actually speaks up this time… to defend her sister, stating she did not hear Kyle say what Camille is claiming.
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Andy then wants to know what Kim really thinks of Kyle. “Is Kyle a bully?” asks Andy as Kim proceeds to take a long pause. “No, not normally,” is Kim’s reply though I believe the pause said it all. “I’ve never seen Kyle be a bully before,” adds Kim. Camille chimes in, “I’ve seen her bully you,” as I never thought the day would come when I would be in total agreement with Camille.
Kim once again takes a long pause while nodding her head in the yes direction, with Kyle shooting her a stern look, nodding no. Lisa, who never once felt the need to defend Kim through the vicious attacks by Taylor, decides to butt in and defend her pal Kyle. Lisa states Kyle is not a bully and refuses to let her have that label. And just as I was starting to think the topic had changed to Kyle and Kim, Andy brings it back to Camille.
And quite frankly, I am so over the Camille topic at this point. I thought Andy was a bit hard on Camille, rightfully so, though I truly wished he could have taken the same tone with Kyle on the Kim issue. Following a number of excuses, Camille finally accepts responsibility for the comments she made about Mauricio, insinuating he was a cheat, and also calls her comments in which she compared herself to Jesus “pure stupidity.” Yes indeed.
It is now time to tackle the Lisa and Cedric issue, and boy was this an ugly segment. Lisa reveals she and husband Ken paid for Cedric to come to the US. According to Lisa, Cedric got “very nasty” and “aggressive” when it came time for him to move out. Lisa states upon moving out, Cedric showed up to Ken’s office the next day and asked for something in other to keep quiet. And yes, it definitely sounds like Lisa is accusing Cedric of trying to blackmail them. Wowzers. Kyle then reveals Lisa went to the cops, something Lisa says she had not made public information, after which Kyle quickly apologizes. Lisa adds that “every word that came out of his mouth was a lie.”
In a surprising twist, Andy proceeds to show us what life is now like for Cedric outside of the Todd mansion, cause you know, we were really curious about that. We see Cedric doing his daily routine of being a famewhore or something, before he proceeds to trash Lisa and Ken. According to Cedric, Lisa became a controlling egomaniac who treated him like a gay pet, tried to pay him in flowers, and woke him up each morning with a violent scream over the intercom. Cedric adds that Lisa has become “a parody of herself.”
Lisa however defends herself stating, “I think when the camera follows you for months, they really do get an accurate picture of who you are,” and also calling him a vindictive liar. Must say I love the above quote by Lisa. It will come in handy later on in this recap.
I was truly surprised that Bravo decided to air Cedric’s “interview” or segment rather. Very tacky on Bravo’s part especially if Lisa’s blackmail allegations are true. Bravo shouldn’t give an alleged blackmailer a platform to air out his grievances. With that being said, I hate to say it but I could see Lisa being a bit controlling and perhaps having a bit of an ego. Does this make her a monster? No, I don’t think it does. No one’s perfect and I still believe about 95% of Cedric’s claims are likely bogus.
What’s interesting is that the National Enquirer wrote an article about Lisa back in November that pretty much echoed Cedric’s comments word for word. I remember reading the article back then and thinking to myself that Cedric was their “source.” The DailyBeast also wrote about the situation in which a “source” made similar sentiments about Lisa. I also remember thinking Cedric was the likely “source” for that article. This is just to show how these things work and how some of these stories end up in the media with so called “sources.”
While the discussion continues, Kyle, who for some reason fails to see Taylor’s true color or even her own true colors, decides to speak up for Lisa stating she saw through Cedric right away. Kyle decides to name drop her cokehead niece with a sex tape aka Paris Hilton, you know, the one whom she’s so proud of and is not embarrassed by at all, by stating Cedric wouldn’t leave Paris’s side during an outing. This scene just made me LOL and SMH at the same type. What a hypocrite. If only Kim had more money, a sex tape and more fame, I’m sure Kyle would be more proud of her and more protective of her secrets.
Next up is Taylor‘s segment as she cries, and reveals her marriage is in a better place following the show. And I don’t even feel any ounce of emotion or sympathy for Taylor as she’s just so phony. What I do love about this segment was Kim‘s advice to Taylor, though I’m sure some would like me to believe she’s an insane demented drunk who never makes sense.
Following a very awkward and poorly acted Turbo Tax commercial with Gretchen Rossi, the show returns with the husbands. Adrienne & Paul reveal bickering is their foreplay, Russell tries to emote some human emotion, Mauricio is still hot as ever, and Ken would like do to more sexy times with his wife. We also find out Camille has hired Mauricio back as her realtor, which I’m certain wasn’t done to repair her image or anything. The Nick factor is brought up and Camille reveals her Italian blood is to blame for kissing a married man on the lips, while still adamant their relationship is definitely not “nefarious.”
Andy then wants to know which of the housewives would kiss their husband’s good friend on the lips? There are no takers though Taylor volunteers she would have no problem kissing Kyle on the lips. Something that would be all but impossible considering those overly inflated things are permanently stuck to Kyle’s rear end. The topic of Cedric is brought up once again and Ken gets emotional as he reveals the despicable actions of someone whom he considered a son. Lisa once again denies Cedric’s claims stating, “I mean you see the footage. The footage doesn’t lie and in this arena, when the cameras are there, if they did see something negative, they would show it.” Mmm mmmm.
During one of the short segments, Andy decides to be messy by asking Adrienne if any of her single rich brothers would be ideal for Kim, who revealed she was single and dating. Adrienne takes the bait and states, almost with a look of disgust on her face, that she doesn’t know because Kim is a crazy drunk according to Kyle bit “standoffish.” Adrienne added, “Who knows? Maybe in the future.” Sighs, I thought Adrienne could have handled this question much better than she did. It doesn’t sound as bad in writing but her whole body language was a bit telling.
It is now time for Kim and Kyle‘s segment. Immediately Andy reads a question from a viewer wanting to know why Kyle bullies Kim “on a regular basis from little jabs, to condescending giggles, to outright attacks?” Kyle tries to take a page from Taylor‘s handbook by stating they are mostly jokes between she and Kim. Andy does a good job reading my mind when he states they do not come across as playful. Kyle then adds that she comes across as a bully because Kim is her sister and their relationship is more complex than friends. And I must say my relationship with my sister isn’t all that complex really. We love each other, protect one another and most importantly, treat each other with respect and dignity. Sibling relationships are never perfect but to try to pass this off as just a complex sister relationship is a bit of a cop out in my opinion. It’s equivalent to Camille blaming everything on her divorce.
Andy once again turns to Kim to ask if she feels Kyle bullies her. Following a pause, a shorter pause than previous ones, Kim replies, “It’s like she misplaces, sometimes she misplaces her anger. But you take it out on the people you love. And I understand.” It sounds like Kim is still trying to defend Kyle, though in the process, she came across sounding like a victim protecting her abuser. Very interesting use of words by Kim. Kim echoed what I have stated in the past two blogs, which is I strongly believe Kyle is taking out all the anger & resentment she has towards their mother out on Kim.
So what’s Kyle’s reply to her sister Kim, who just tried to protect her? “And she’s not any push over, believe me. We just don’t always see that,” is Kyle’s comeback and feel free to think back to Lisa’s comments posted at the beginning of the blog. Better yet, let’s go back to a quote from a “source” in last week’s UsWeekly article trashing Kim. That quote is below -
“Kyle didn’t want anything out there that would shame Kim. But Kim is not the shy waif she presents herself as on TV.”
I’ll let you draw your own conclusions. Andy asks Camille‘s opinion and she feels Kyle is tough on Kim. “We do clash at times. I could be a lot more gentle with Kim. It’s not always one sided. Right?” asks Kyle cocking her head to the side as she shoots Kim a stern look. “Yeah,” responds Kim. “Maybe sometimes I’m a little strong but it’s who I am,” adds Kyle. Poor Kyle, poor poor victim Kyle, always having to be strong, always having to protect and defend Kim. It must be so tough. Kim then tries to come to Kyle’s defense, stating she is just like their mom. “I’m a lot like my mom,” admits Kyle. Interesting admission by Kyle considering all the stories, albeit unconfirmed, out there that claim ‘Big Kathy‘ was a real piece of work, a drunk, and someone who cared more about what her kids could do for her than vice versa.
Kyle gets emotional and attempts to cry though I see no tears on my HD television. Kim gets emotional as well and tears up as she admits Kyle is a bit hard on her at times but uses the phase “I understand” once again. And once again, she uses the language of a victim trying to protect her abuser. Bravo then cuts to some footage of the two sisters from the season including the ugly limo fight. “As much as she loves me, it’s like she puts me down a lot,” says Kim in one of the clips.
“You are a liar and sick and an alcoholic. Okay? You are an alcoholic. Yes. That’s right. That’s right. I’ve said it, now everybody knows,” are Kyle’s words in the limo.
Once again, we see Kim immediately replying, “Oh my God, guess who drinks all GD day?” as Kyle yells ‘quiet’ a few times before immediately dashing out of the limo.
By the way, as this segment played out on TV last night, below are two tweets made by Lisa -
“This just accelerated into a rapid decline…Kim didn’t know what she was saying at this time.”
“Bet martins glad I set him up ….shoooot.”
No words. Back to Andy as he wants to know how Kyle felt about what happened that night. While Kyle tries to gather her thoughts, Kim steps in to defend her, stating they both simply want to move on from that night. “I love her,” adds Kim stating she really doesn’t want to discuss that night and just wants to put it all behind her. Andy turns back to Kyle, who is mumbling her words and “crying,” though once again I see no tears. Just a pet peeve of mine by the way, people crying with no tears. Kyle then asks Camille to switch seats with her so that she can be the strong one and comfort Kim. Kyle reveals she would give anything to take back that night.
Kyle adds that it was a lot of stuff that led up to her snapping that night. “Like what,” asks Andy? “Just private things,” replies Kyle. More private than alcoholism I wonder? Andy wonders if being a child actress added to the stress of Kim’s life, Kim disagrees and states she has no regrets. Andy mentions Kim supporting her family, and before he can even finish his sentence, Kyle, who was just “crying” seconds earlier interrupts, “That wasn’t entirely accurate either. Just to be fair, my dad was you know successful… I also was a child actor.” No words.
Lisa butts in to defend Kyle stating that Kyle goes out of her way to protect Kim. How Lisa? By allowing both you and Taylor to keep insinuating that Kim’s an alcoholic during the reunion? Something Kim did not want to talk about at all? Very protective indeed. Lisa once again alludes to the elephant in the room. “I don’t want to talk about that,” is Kyle’s reply. Taylor decides to add her two cents and Andy does an excellent job when he tells her she started the fight. Taylor deflects stating twice that Kim “jumped up” at her during her party and that “there may have been other factors” at play. In watching this again, I can’t help but just feel these people are gross.
And finally comes the moment every one’s been waiting for and the moment Bravo has been touting and promoting.
“Do you have a drinking problem?” asks Andy.
“No, there’s nothing about that night that I want to talk about at all,” replies Kim. A very surprising yet good reply by Kim I thought, will explain why later. Andy puts the issue to rest. Kim hugs sister Kyle and says “I love you,” though we don’t hear a reply from Kyle, who I’m sure is feeling like she has just been vindicated at this point in time, though judging by the responses from the “blogs,” she is very wrong.
Whew! Following that, Andy tries to end the show with comic relief I guess as the whole dinner from hell fiasco is revisited. A viewer question brings up a great point which is why did Camille invite Allison and supply her with alcohol, after admitting Allison gets nasty when she drinks. Camille of course attempts to play dumb though I’m not sure she’s really playing. The issue of the morally corrupt Faye Resnick is brought up again, plus Camille’s past in porn. It seems Camille has done her research as she now mentions the tell-all book Faye wrote about her deceased friend as part of the reason for her comments. Oddly enough, Kyle doesn’t respond to the book talk, simply sticking to the comments about the Playboy issue.
Camille once again brings up the incident in which Kyle and others were looking at porn photos of her in the limo. Kyle, the straight shooter that she is, admits she did indeed show those photos to others in the limo. And then, perhaps not realizing it, Kyle admits those photos were already in her email. So Kyle had photos from Camille’s porn past in her email BEFORE the dinner from hell even happened? Interesting.
More of Allison‘s vile comments are discussed, Camille is still “cautiously optimistic” about a friendship with Kyle, Taylor regrets the Oklahoma comment, Kyle regrets not handling things better, Adrienne & Lisa have no regrets, Kim regrets the arguing with Taylor & Kyle, and Camille not only has regrets, but actually apologizes to Kyle. And the first very draining season of the BH Housewives is over.
Kim & Kyle – Okay so more on this of course. I was very surprised and also impressed with Kim’s reply to the drinking question. Surprised because I honestly assumed she was going to talk about it from the way her sister’s friends (Taylor and Lisa) kept alluding to it all night, especially in situations that it did not need to be brought up in. The fact that Kim wasn’t going to go there makes their actions even more disgusting. And from watching, it seems Kim & Kyle had agreed before hand not to talk about this, which makes Kyle’s actions of not nipping her friends’ insinuations in the bud, more disgusting.
Impressed with Kim’s answer because it’s nobody’s business. I stated on twitter last night that Kyle’s actions of outing Kim’s alleged alcoholism ( I will use the word alleged because Kim has yet to publicly admit it) is equivalent to outing someone’s sexuality. It’s completely unacceptable. If Kim is an alcoholic, no one has the right to reveal that to the world. No one. That should be Kim’s story to tell. My take? I really don’t know if Kim’s an alcoholic. There are so many different variations when it comes to substance abuse that we might never know what the real deal is with Kim. All I can go by is what I saw on the show, and not the mean words of Kyle or the nasty quotes by “family sources” in the press. As I’ve always stated, the only time Kim appeared drunk to me was at the Taylor’s party and even then, she was able to make perfect sense and act appropriately.
In reflecting on this season, I realized this week that my original opinions of the BH Housewives were pretty spot on earlier on in my first recap of the show (written after episode 3). I find myself ending the season with pretty much the same opinions I had of the ladies with the exception of Kim, who absolutely grew on me, way before the finale episode even aired.
Kim – Kim came across as a good person, and an all around decent human being. Some people accuse her of playing the victim role but I don’t see it that way. In fact, I ask, how many times as Kim whined about being a child star and having to support her family on the show? Okay, and how many times has Kyle whined about having to take care of Kim and having to be responsible for Kim on the show? I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.
Taylor – Just a waste. What’s funny is in my first recap for the show, I accidentally left Taylor out while doing my assessment on each of the ladies. So yep, that about sums up Taylor. Just a waste of space and keyboard strokes.
Adrienne – She started as my favorite early on, and I guess she ends the season as my fav along with Kim. She’s far from perfect but seems very smart, level headed and above the drama, which when you think about it, does not make for a good Bravo housewife. I wouldn’t mind seeing her back next season, but with more of ‘her’ and less of the business promoting.
Camille – She really needs to send thank you cards to Taylor and Kyle because quite frankly, I just don’t care as much anymore about her previous actions on the show. She just doesn’t seem as vile to me anymore following the events of the last 2 weeks. With that said, she did say and do all the things we saw this season so… I do think it would be in her best interest to attempt some soul searching and return next season to redeem her image. It can only go up from here right?
Lisa - Lisa became my favorite midway through the season. How could you not love her with her wicked sense of humor? But towards the end of the season, I started to notice some things and started to feel a certain way. Her tweets from last night (posted above) only confirmed my feelings about her. She definitely has some mean girl traits. Definitely. With that said, I don’t think she’s a monster and I still like her for the moment. What I do love about these shows is that people’s true colors always show sooner or later. Below is my original assessment of Kyle from the first recap.
“Though I’m liking Kyle at the moment, I’m starting to notice some little things here and there. I’m detecting a slight arrogance, self-absorbedness, and perhaps some insecurities. I notice this need to sorta put down her sister Kim or burst her bubble rather whenever she’s getting attention from others or feeling good about herself. I can’t wait to see how her character unravels as the season goes along.”
Kyle – Despite that, I still gave her a fair shot because it’s sort of my job to do so, and even started to like her. I made excuses for her regarding the Kim situation because after all, Kim was a needy sister and Kyle was the one who had spent all her life looking after her. Something Kyle made certain to let me know practically every episode. Looking back now, I guess I had it right the first time. I’ve already said a lot about her and made my feelings about her very clear. I’ll just add that karma has a way of evening things out. While I would like to say I want she and Kim to mend things, I just can’t. I don’t think she’s a good or genuine person at all. I think she is toxic to Kim and I strongly believe she is responsible for some of the recent negative press about Kim. I believe Kim should keep her distance until Kyle gets help for whatever her issues are. Not to say Kim doesn’t have issues or doesn’t need to get help as well, but I can only go by what was shown on the show following 5 months of filming.
What really bothers me the most about everything is that Kim has still yet to update her twitter since Jan 18th, and has still yet to break her silence. Both actions lead me to believe she is truly ashamed of what happened and what the world now knows/thinks about her. While the one who should be ashamed and hiding continues to do press rounds trying to repair her image, at the expense of her sister. Also, all the ladies appeared on The Ellen Show today, with the exception of Kim. Kyle revealed on the show that Kim might not return for a second season. Can’t say I blame her.
RHOBH – Overall, it was a pretty good season before it got dark towards the end. However, what I really dislike about this cast is that despite being the wealthiest, they might just be the absolute phoniest Bravo housewives. These women are just extremely phony and fake. The way they treat each other or judge each other is based not on character, but rather on wealth. It’s like the richer you are, the more you get a pass for your bad behavior. I can assure you if Kim had Camille’s wealth, she would have been treated much much differently by the others. With that said, I’m very glad this season is over! And I do look forward to a second season following some blogger therapy sessions.
TELL US – WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE RECAP? WHAT PARTS DO YOU AGREE WITH? DISAGREE WITH? THOUGHTS ON THE REUNION & RHOBH FIRST SEASON?
@Nicks:
Did u see what I posted this AM to @Fred?
Think Kim AND Cedric should do something acting wise together………….like I said this AM, only thing hotter than YOUTH in Hollyrock, is “of the moment ” hotness and being “in the news” their agents better act QUICK………………….
Its Reality TTTTTTTTTTT time! (trying to mimic Jersey Shores “Its TTTTTT shirt time”, lol) What up fellow HW addicts??
@253 Scarlette Begonia – Hello Ms. Lady! Tell me it aint so…I watched Ellen…I must of missed the “Who? So what!” comment. Going back to look again…
@286 Anita V – Glad to see you back…totally in agreement that Kyle has no filter. Your statement is so true…Kyle has absolutely no intermission between what comes into her puny brain and what goes out of her snarky, mean-girl mouth.”
@292 Ms Nicks…you drinking with my man, meinnyc??? Isnt he just so cute blaming Kim for all the alcohol he consumes, lol. Hell, I blamed Kim for the blizzard outside.
@274 meinnyc…you restock the liquor cabinet yet?? We have 2 episodes of “behind the scenes” coming up, one needs to be PREPARED! Cedric is writing a book?? JUICY!!!!
@Anita V – I checked with the BiL of the couple in Idaho & he said he’s probably met you if you hang out with Edward & knew Margeaux … his name is Anthony & he’s a Brit writer & a notorious drunk (just to be clear, I’m not outing him, lots of articles have been written & he owns the public spectacles but claims he’s “not an alcoholic, just a drunk” … siiiigh).
@ Nicks – Kim actually rocks in the film. You’ll enjoy!
@meinnyc – Do you think Cedric can really act? Cause his sob story delivery to Kyle was pretty … flat
And I can’t wait for Cedric’s book. The other poster (forget who, mea culpa) is correct … restaurants & bars DO NOT buy a $29m home. However the husband might be old money, which would explain the very young (21) quick marriage to an older man (did she say met Ken & married him in 6 or 8 weeks?).
@fred:
I’m pretty much SURE Cedric can’t Act………..doesn’t really matter…. ‘cuz there are several A and many B Movie Stars that can’t Act, making millions of Bucks……………………..hahaha!
Taylor’s Bravo blog has her apologizing – while explaining herself AGAIN! AND, explaining herself to the cowards behind computers no less!!!
She will never own up to the fact that she IS a vile and malicious gossiper (Kim put it nicely by calling her a chameleon).
To Tayler:[since ur probably reading this]
“Pardon me,nice party,huh? Oh, I’d like to see that Picasso behind you,ooo, I’m sorry………. could you…………oh nevermind, forgot,……….. stand right there……….forgot…haha…….I can see right THROUGH you………………….!”
What a BUMMER………..Andy’s more in to GIGGY than anything else………………..
BS Andy………………..
Taylor is a douche.
Lisa not knowing what Kohl’s is was funny.
Seriously, WWHL needs a new host…..Andy doesn’t ask any real questions, he just kisses ass!!!
haha, Taylor got 1% of the vote for favorite housewife….LOVE IT!!
@300 Rajin – You are correct, both Kyle and Taylor live in what we call “the fake Bel Air” which is spitting distance from the 405. Aside from Kyle being a rajin bitch, one of the reasons the maid made her midnight run was because of the soot buildup. And as for for that trash bag whore … the Bravo site has videos of all the “girls” showing off their homes, and hers is a bare bones rental, barely looks as if they live there. Most likely they pulled a Salahi and live in an apartment in the Valley. And that being said, apparently that whore doesn’t drive? I mean why was she always a passenger or being dropped off? That whore doesn’t have a car just like she doesn’t have a job (besides blowing Russel). And one more thing, her stylist (my ass) brought over racks of clothes for her shopping pleasure (cough) name dropping Chanel. Bitch, please. None of that crap was even close to a Channel knock-off. She wore the most staid boring crap of the lot. I had this twat pegged since day one, and I doubt anyone in Los Angeles, let alone Oklahoma is buying what she is trying to sell. And furthermore, I would be very surprised is “her charity” is legit. I could easily see her pocketing the poker money.
yep, Shana is a total fake (i’m on strike – not using her fake name). she has finally apologized (in the blog) but she still hasn’t owned up to what she did. and on WWHL, Lisa is kind of skimming over this fact too. i’m really wondering whether Lisa did participate in a conversation on the plane that she doesn’t want repeated (even though Shana already repeated it to Camille in NY) … so maybe she has a vested interest in not further outing Shana.
Does anybody know why Lisa has the last name of Vanderpump and her husband Ken has the last name of Todd? What she didn’t think Lisa Todd was cool enough?
Oh, I am no longer watching WWHL anymore b/c Andy Cohen is a total and complete moron! He asks no hard questions and plays juvenile boring games.
And I don’t get easily offended but, that pissed me off about those “poor people shop at Kol’s or eat at Outback Steakhouse.” Ridiculous.
Plus, I KNOW those polls are rigged! Kim became the most loved housewife this season, not Lisa. Andy should do all of his Ass-kissing backstage BEFORE the show. He is really just a waste of my time. Is he drunk or is he running low on his meds?
And I am getting more increasing concered about giggy the dog. That dog is way too calm and looks medicated or mentally retarded. It’s stupid for Lisa to put the dog in all those dumb (but cute) costumes when the dog is already sick, obviously. It’s inhumane and cruel and Lisa is totally using the poor thing which I find disgusting.
For somebody with her wealth, you would think she would have researched her dog breeder better and been able to purchase a healthy dog. Again, shows her poor ability to judge somebody’s character.
ok … i have logged a set of predictions for which statements by the housewives were true and which were lies. i can’t wait for the lost footage! if this season ends and we never get any truth from shana, i’m going to be seriously disappointed!
http://realhousewivessidekick.blogspot.com/2011/02/rhobh-lie-detector.html
Hey Everyone!
Does anyone know how the poll for the most favorite houswife on WWHL panned out? I totally missed it:(
@Kimber Lisa won. though they kind of overlook the sampling problem – they were sampling an audience that tuned in to a wwhl that featured Lisa. may not have reflected the general audience. but yeah Lisa won. and Shana got 1% (apparently, less than Camille)
@317 Kimber – it was 49% for Lisa, 16% for both Kyle and Adrienne, 11% for Kim, 7% for Kim, and 1% for Taylor… (hey, she got through!) … burned in my brain for some reason.
That’s about 1 in 6 for Kyle, a little more than 1 in 10 for Kim… Maybe it was rigged, maybe it was the Lisa-sampling thing (@318 smart
). Also, ‘favorite’ doesn’t account for the ‘controversial’ factor, if you average for popularity… some of them are loved and hated (Kyle), and others are generally liked (Adrienne). Kyle would beat Adrienne for most disliked also, IMHO.
I thought Andy was getting really interested in Ken, you could tell what his Cedric theory was. Kind of cute… I think Andy’s poor enough he wouldn’t mind moving in to the Vandedrpump-Todd mansion…
RT, love the new logo
I watched WWHL last night and I have to say I am disappointed in Lisa for speaking of Kim’s alledged alcoholism. I realize Andy asked the question, however, Lisa should have refrained from answering. Kim has never confirmed she has a problem and until she comes out and is public with it, NO ONE should be discussing it or sharing their two cents especially Lisa. I love Lisa and thought she was above this but maybe she got caught off guard and now wishes she had not discussed it.
@ 321 Angel – Exactly. I keep thinking why do these ladies keep bringing up the Kim’s problem. It’s none of their business. She has not admitted to having a problem, so who are they to discuss it.
That’s why I don’t understand Kyle, If these were my friends I would tell them to back off and mind their business.
@321 – I know, right? I still want to give Lisa a little benefit of the doubt, too… at least she said, “We don’t know how serious it is,” but… once again, I think RT’s right about the money thing; I think they’d all treat Kim very differently if she had money or influence.
Also, I don’t know what Kim did so wrong with Martin that they’re all rolling their eyes and saying they won’t go there with Kim. As far as I can tell, all she did was wait for him to call first (which he never did). That’s just like, dating etiquette. What would they be saying if she’d called him the day after? Worse, probably.
I as amazed that Kyle had the nerve to bring up her acting in reference to Kim stating that she worked hard to provide for her family. Saying her father had money also. She should have said thank you Kim for all you did for us. And I am sorry it caused you to miss out on your childhood. Nope she just couldn’t bring herself to be appreciative. She had friends and went to school. Kim didn’t and the father was kicked out and divorced the day Kim started making enough to support Big Cathy and the family.FACT
Here is Christian Bale disusing his feelings on having to support a family at such a young age.He had a big row with his mother and sister and was arrested and hasn’t spoken to them since. They wanted money
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But now, at 37, he’s back in a role which has not only made him the darling of Hollywood once again, but which has also brought him a deep and enduring friendship that has changed his life.
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* The Fighter: The bruise brothers: Wahlberg’s good, but Bale’s better in a boxing film that punches above its weight
Frankly, it’s all come as a bit of a surprise. After all, The Fighter was supposed to be Mark Wahlberg’s film. The actor had spent nearly a decade trying to get it made and worked out for five years, two hours a day, in the boxing ring to achieve the right physique for the lead role. He produced it and worked for no fee.
A family torn apart: Bale’s mother and sister, Jenny and Sharon, are yet to hear from him after their explosive row
A family torn apart: Bale’s mother and sister, Jenny and Sharon, are yet to hear from him after their explosive row
The film tells the true story of boxer Micky Ward, who escaped his domineering family and drug-addicted former boxer brother, Dicky, to be a world champion.
Mark saw parallels between their lives and, growing up, had been a huge fan of Micky.
They were both the youngest of nine children in Irish families on the wrong side of Boston and overcame troubled childhoods to achieve success.
Yet it is Bale who has stolen the show as Micky’s hyperactive, drug-addict brother, Dicky Eklund.
He was given the part only after Brad Pitt and Matt Damon turned it down and he bumped into Wahlberg while they were dropping their children off at school.
Now Bale, who already has armfuls of awards including a Golden Globe, is tipped for the best supporting actor awards at the Oscars and Baftas.
Even Micky says he was astounded at how like Dicky Christian became.
‘He’s from a different background, but the way he acts you would never know it,’ the boxer told me. ‘If you saw Dicky and Christian from behind during filming, you wouldn’t know who was who. It was that good.’
Bale was already known for going the extra mile for his roles. When he played a chronic insomniac in The Machinist he lost over four stones by consuming nothing more than coffee, cigarettes and an apple a day.
He then bulked up — putting on six stones — to play the macho super hero Batman.
To play Dicky, he lost another two stones and learned to box in the fighter’s distinctive ‘squirrelly’ style. To get Dicky’s wiry physique, he ran for two hours each day before work.
Although he has been labelled a method actor because of the extreme way he tackles his roles, sources say he has always been insecure about his acting ability, because he never went to drama school.
Happier times: Christian Bale is pictured with his mother Jenny and sister Louise in 1988, before his acting career took off
Happier times: Christian Bale is pictured with his mother Jenny and sister Louise in 1988, before his acting career took off
But he has astounded his contemporaries with his dedication and talent. Melissa Leo, who is up for an Oscar as the boys’ indomitable mother, Alice, tells me: ‘Actors are, forgive us, very private in the end. We don’t do what we do because we are extroverted. We do it to alleviate a discomfort in being a human being.
‘I was trying to get from Christian what his technique might be. But he just has the Christian technique.
‘He doesn’t call it a technique, of course. He just does it and would prefer not to talk about it. That, to me, is what the long-misunderstood method acting is all about — that you know your instrument and you train your instrument.’
Born in South Wales and brought up in Bournemouth by his mother Jenny, a former circus performer, and his pilot father David, Bale began acting in adverts for fabric conditioner when he was just nine.
Aged 13 he was picked from 4,000 hopefuls to star in the 1987 film Empire Of The Sun.
Family feud: Christian with his mother Jenny and sisters Louise and Sharon at Sharon’s wedding in 1995, before the ongoing row began
Family feud: Christian with his mother Jenny and sisters Louise and Sharon at Sharon’s wedding in 1995, before the ongoing row began
By the time he was 18 he’d moved to Los Angeles and was living with his father. It was not just that he wanted to work — he needed to.
By then Christian’s father earned his living as his manager and the family at home needed help too. He says one reason he empathised with Dicky was because both their families depended on them.
‘There’s something in my background akin to Dicky’s,’ he said recently. ‘I started earning money as a kid. That can become unhealthy — most child actors don’t have a happy time. I soon realised I didn’t want to be famous and I didn’t like the effect my success had on my family.
‘I had responsibilities I wouldn’t wish upon my daughter, my nieces or anybody. You’re earning money and you’ve got to help people out. Then you’ve got to keep helping people out. Then it becomes the norm. Suddenly, you’re 13 and working full-time to provide.’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1353433/Christian-Bale-The-Fighter-Hollywoods-golden-boy-feuding-family.html#ixzz1D0AhZ1y7
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@Mis Lis:
Wow!
I didn’t know ANY of that………….@fred………he’s the REAL deal acting wise……….a quite rightly deserves any and every accolade he gets…………
However, I had read he was [I think, could be wrong] Winona Ryder’s Personal Assistant 4 a while, no?…………………
@kkitty thanks
good points also re: controversial factor. about the date – i think maybe what she did wrong was get herself into a state in which she couldn’t drive herself home (i heard a bit of an allusion to that at one point) … and for some reason, the ladies seemed to think this was funny or that it was funny that Martin wasn’t interested in her or something, i dunno (e.g., Lisa presenting Kim as a gift at Shana’s party).
i generally like Lisa … but i was really disappointed when she did that. also, i’m starting to wonder whether Shana and Taylor did have a conversation about Camille on the plane and whether this was the root of the insecurity discussion … yet (and i hope i’m wrong), Lisa and Shana might be content letting Kim be the scapegoat. http://realhousewivessidekick.blogspot.com/2011/02/shana-conspiracy.html
oops – i meant Shana and Lisa
Thanks, @real housewives sidekick
… oh, yeah, I seem to remember the drinking thing now… and he obviously wasn’t interested… just petty mean-girl stuff. That is disappointing from Lisa.
Wow, just checked out your blog. I love your theory, it makes perfect sense… all the little loose ends are tied up.
@kkitty thanks … i was kind of hoping my theory was wrong … because i really do like Lisa. but it also seemed to kind of explain maybe why Lisa and Shana had a vested interest in alluding to/directly addressing Kim’s drinking during the reunion … and if that is what they did, then i’m really, really disappointed in them for making Kim a scapegoat … and in Kyle for not putting a stop to it …
I know, rhs… upsetting… I think if Lisa wasn’t such close friends with Kyle, she wouldn’t be treating Kim in any suspect way. Kyle puts Lisa in the position of picking sides in order to show her loyalty.
Lisa is very loving and maternal, obviously, but she doesn’t seem to have the best judgment when it comes to people… not just Cedric, IMHO. I think it may be cultural; certain things read differently in England than they do in France or the US… My mother was British boarding school educated, so I know firsthand about this.
@rhs:
Just read ur blog………seems, as usual, ur right on the money…………if y’ll remember the dinner @ Sarafina, Camille, when she asks the ” So……….how was the plane ride……….?”……….. She looks ACROSS the table @ Trouter,………. I mean Trailor,………… I mean Shana…………………………
re: “You are correct, both Kyle and Taylor live in what we call “the fake Bel Air” which is spitting distance from the 405.”
Are you from LA? Because there is nothing wrong with living in Bel Air near the 405. There are some huge mansions there. I think what you mean is that they live near the part of Bel-Air that is very close to the Valley, which is kind of near the 101. But let’s be honest, that part of town is still great.
@kkitty that’s interesting – perhaps it is also kind of why i’m having trouble reading Lisa
@meinnyc you are funny
and yes, that’s just the dinner i was thinking of too.
hmm … i’m wondering whether Andy is not pressing the issue with her because we would be left with only Adrienne as a hero … don’t want us mad at everyone perhaps …
@rhs:
Truth be told………When has Freaky Andy pressured ANYBODY when they’re on WWHL [behind their back, or asking a guest ON the show about someone and dissing them, he's got no problem with.........ha]…………
OYE,….. Andy……….whatta schmoozer….
Hey…………he’s a SMARTEE, that Andy….
Taylor Armstrong has been named Chief Creative Director of website Beautyticket.com. When people found out they were considering her they were bombarded with emails, they still hired her. I sent them an email telling them I would not be purchasing anything from their website since they hired and untruthful person.
yes, that is true …
Andy’s smart, and a schmoozer, no doubt. He also seemed pretty smashed (as usual) on WWHL last night… his interviews are like cocktail party chats. Can be fun, but not worth much if you’re looking for the dirt.
AND…………thought is was funny as HELL that the ? @gigi asked me to ask Andy was asked by that lady from Alabama……..
which I tweeted him about [and called somebody], namelly, Lisa, ” wasn’t Trailor, sorry, Taylor responsable for MOST of the drama on the show?”………and of course Lisa said………” oh I had that coversation with her @ Villa Blanca….” [or something like that] …………….and of COURSE Andy [ the Shmoozer] didn’t follow up……………
Now, was I responsible for the question? Of COURSE I wasn’t………….just seemed funny…………the coincidence, ‘sall………….
…….suffice 2 say……….Lisa/Ken have gotta alooota shit goin’ on in their backround that hasn’t seen the light of day……..
Do like them [I think]………..just that this Beverly Hills Matron/Squire thingee ain’t all real…………………….just sayin’……………..
I will not watch next season if kyle is on, she is repulsive.
I LOVE your write up! You are one of the few people actually looking at the season objectively and seeing everyone for what they are! I have tried 5 times to post on Bravo’s blog about how phony and fake Kyle is, and my post NEVER shows up! It was just even hard for me to watch the finale after seeing Kyle and Taylor not take responsibility for any of their actions! Seeing the tape, you would think they would finally admit they were wrong! And I just wish Kim would cut Kyle out of her life completely.
@332 Bubbles, yes, you make sense. The neighborhood is fine for normal folks, but these Jelly Beans want us to believe they are power players.
We are talking about nouveau riche vs old money. Classy vs Sassy.
Kyle and Taylor are your typical famewhoring (who entertains the paps while they are naked wasted? people like Lindsay or Paris. Ugh!) social climbing wanna-be It girls.
Kyle wants to be Paris. Too funny!
They will step on anyone, including exploiting Kim’s alcholism, to get there.
When in reality they are not these wealthy powerful socialites they try to portray on HWs.
Camille said it best, there is a BIG difference between an A lister and your typical BH realtor.
Camille had 17 houses and Kyle a 2 million shack squeezed into a Bel-Air corner.
Who knows where Shana is renting?
I think Kyle tried to aligned herself with Camille when she asked her to be on the show, but she doesn’t like sharing the spotlight, so that is how the BIG clash and gossiping started.
To some extent, I can understand what Camille meant about Kyle and her jealousy.
All Camille has to do is say her last name, while Kyle plays the ‘Paris card.’
Where is the Umansky card? Kyle was jealous and probably said that about Kelsey.
Kim couldn’t even give a straight answer, and why I believe this.
If Camille had not crumbled her own character, she would probably be the favorite.
In LA, you might have loads of money but if you don’t have a ‘name’ or ‘connections’ you will not get any attention or respect.
@Brookelyn it seems like lots of people haven’t been able to post at Bravo … so now i don’t even bother reading the comments there. i’m on the fence about Kyle (trying to give her certain benefits of the doubt, tho it is kind of hard) … but i’ve given up hope for Shana – i just wanna see someone lay the smack down on her (and really get to the bottom of things with everyone)
@rajin cajin i think you are right that had Camille played her cards a little differently, she could have come out on top (disclaimer: she would have had to have ditched the childlike, breathy voice and dopey eyes … but when she has used her big girl voice in interviews on other shows, she came across better)
@ RT: I missed the second part of the reunion show so reading this was the next best thing. Just wanted to give you two thumbs up on this post, very descriptive and your insights are like a breath of fresh air, especially when you say how phony the women are and how cash is king in BH. Well written!
@343 RHS I like your blog. You gotta make a post just on Camille during a weekend marathon! Lol!!!
I agree, I think Camille was a bit misunderstood.
She played her ‘character” like a parody of a BH trophy wife while the others had serious drama going on, so she came off as full of herself.
Then watching again and hearing her backstory I can see she is all Hollywood.
Narcissist, shallow, business savvy, and tries to trump anyone that gets in her way (Kyle).
She is a natural liar (blog material) and that destroyed her image.
The fans don’t like liars because we feel it is insulting our intelligence and makes it difficult to follow the show.
Plus, owning your bullshit, makes the drama and conflicts more real.
thanks rajin’cajin! i was actually just thinking about Camille … have ever so slightly altered my opinions of her – and have a new theory of what might have gone down throughout the season. i’ll try to jot it down before the extra footage – i’m curious to see how accurate my guesses might be – it could be a fun game.
which of the ladies were you suggesting was the natural liar? sorry, i just got a little confused if you were suggesting Kyle or Camille? that’s probably true that people feel like the liars are insulting their intelligence. i think Shana, for sure, has cultivated her lying – she is either pathologically believing her lies or she has worked hard to cover up some common tells … the jury is still out for me on Kyle as to when, where, why she may have distorted truth (also planning to unpack that a little this week – but i want to rewatch episodes to really pay attention to the subtle cues – sadly, no tivo for me). i do agree also that fessing up makes you more relatable and forgivable. i think Camille got some good advice before the reunion – to just admit she screwed up. she didn’t do it perfectly (i imagine it takes some practice and judging by her behavior throughout the season, she didn’t have that practice yet) … but she did admit to a few things (feeling insecure, that the insecurity may have affected her interaction with Kyle, that her comparison of herself to Jesus was stupidity, eventually – that she meant the Mauricio comment maliciously, etc.). she would have been so much better off being honest about the insecurity early on, but not retaliating.