The last episode of The Real Housewives of Orange County brought us Florida-gate. Vicki Gunvalson planned a Florida trip intended to be an all girls trip, and was not happy when some of the other husbands decided to tag along.
Jim Bellino and Simon Barney both showed up on the trip after they repeatedly said their wives are not allowed to go on trips without them. Alexis Bellino and Tamra Barney both seemed to be okay with this, much to Vicki’s dismay. Vicki even refused to attend any events that the husbands, and Slade Smiley showed up to.
The ladies have now taken to their Bravo blogs to speak out on Floridagate. -
Here’s what Tamra Sue had to say:
“OK, so the guys went … get over it! The girls spent so much time together the only thing left was sleeping together and that wasn’t going to happen! The guys going all started with Simon, Jim Alexis, and I talking. As married couples with small kids it is very seldom that we take trips alone, together or apart. We thought it would be fun if the guys came and did guy things while the girls did their thing. So that is exactly what happened. The girls spent 80% of the time filming doing fabulous things; we even took a water taxi and went shopping downtown. The guys went golfing, worked out, and hung out by the pool. Everybody was happy … or so I thought. The last night we were there we went on the sunset cruise after our shopping trip. We thought it would be nice to have the guys there. I didn’t think for a second that Vicki would have a problem with it. I felt really bad when I saw how upset she was, but later found out that she had friends in town and went out to dinner with them.”
Alexis share her thoughts as well:
I’m not quite sure why Vicki was so upset about the boys coming on the trip to Florida. To be honest, she never even saw them until after hours …which was fine with me. The girls trip was never presented to me as a ‘GIRLS ONLY’ trip. I never received the memo: “NO MEN ALLOWED.” I would have laughed had she stated that to me. Nor did she pay for our trip, which would have given her more of a right to assign rules. I would not go somewhere that had certain ‘rules’ in advance, like your husband is not allowed. Not to mention the fact that Jim and Simon invited Donn to join them. So it was never a question of Vicki not mentioning to Donn to come along. What really strikes me as shocking is the fact that Vicki did not want to join us on the fabulous yacht cruise because she was going to feel like a third wheel, but yet she wound up going out that night with another couple, thus being a third wheel. It just doesn’t quite register with me … it doesn’t make sense. It may be a little hypocritical.
Vicki gives he side of the story:
When we initially planned for the trip to be a “girls” trip, it was planned during the week and I thought really nothing of it that the guys weren’t invited. I had no idea it was going to turn into such a problem with the men. I had just finished a week in West Palm Beach for an insurance conference and thought it would be great to extend it for a few days and have the girls come down to join me in Ft. Lauderdale. Due to the fact it was during the week, Donn was fine with me continuing my stay for a few more days and wasn’t planning on taking time off of work to meet me. When I found out Simon and Jim were coming I thought, ‘Well, then it’s not a girls trip if the guys are joining us’ and I wondered how it would turn out. Even though Donn wasn’t planning on going, he told me to go anyways and to have a great time. In hindsight, once I knew the dynamics were changing with Simon and Jim coming, I probably should have listened to my gut and just gone home and not stayed for the few extra days. Simon and I had already had a few conflicts this summer, and I felt very uncomfortable being around him and really didn’t want to see him.
Never thought I would see the day I side with Vicki but I actually agree with her on this. There is something very controlling and slightly creepy about the men saying their wives are not allowed to go on trips without them. It seemed to come of a place of distrust rather than a place of wanting to spend more time with their spouses. I guess this is kinda understandable considering Alexis allegedly cheated on her first husband with a wealthier older man, perhaps Jim does not want history to repeat itself.
I don’t see the problem with the women having a girls trip, and having the husbands there would of course change the dynamics of the trip. Perhaps Vicki could have handled the whole thing better and just sucked it up, but apparently she and Simon had gotten into an argument off camera, and she did not feel comfortable being around Simon.
TELL US – WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THIS EPISODE? ARE YOU TEAM VICKI OR TEAM TAMRA/ALEXIS?
64 Responses to “OC Housewives Vicki, Tamra & Alexis Speak Out On Florida Trip”
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I’m on Vicki’s side. Girls’ trip means just that: GIRLS’ trip. Men not invited. I see Jim and Simon as insecure and not trusting their wives to take a trip without them. Slade just didn’t want to be left out. If I was Vicki, I would have cancelled it as soon as I knew the guys were planning on going. Well, now she knows, can’t plan a girls’ trip with Tamra and Alexis cause they don’t do girls’ trips. At least their husbands don’t let them.
Simon said that Bravo invited them all. If Bravo invites them and Bravo is paying for the trip and their wives want them to go then the notion of it being a girls trip really ends up just being Vickis original idea. While I felt bad for Vicki in some ways she will just have to understand that some married couples do things differently than her and Don. I personally need my space just like Vicki and Don but if I saw my wife or girlfriend in front of cameras (who knows what went on with cameras off) telling random guys her girls want to come out and play I would be contemplating a break up.
TEAM VICKI ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SANDY BEACH !!!!
Alexis needs to be hush-up and stay home in her heels and her
see through hooker top and teen-age clothes. She is a disgrace
like Tamra. Trying to re-live their youth all over again, and it
is pitiful and very sad. Both of them need therapy.
Thank God Vicki and Gretchen are normal.
I love to travel with my husband, but if he ever tried to play the control card and tell me he was coming with me on a girls weekend, I would laugh outloud at him! But then again, my husband trusts me so he would be fine with me going with my friends without him. Alexis and Tamra are completely fake, from their botoxed faces to their puffy lips to their nasty looking cantaloupe boobs to their ugly personalities. And why do these 40 year old women want to act and dress like they’re 25??? So pathetic. I’m with Vicki on this one.
To be far to Simon let me play devils advocate for a second.
He seems to imply in his blog that a housewife from the show messed around on one of these so called girls only trips. It also seems like there has been some meddling in to his marriage by a housewife.
If your husbands wanted to go away with a guy known as a guy that cheats on his wife on guys only trips and a guy that has meddled in your marriage would you like him to say that he was going on a trip with this guy and that you were not allowed to come along
Jim and Alexis are Christian? No where in the Bible does it say women are to be subjugated and controlled like cattle…wait, it does. But that means someone WILL be turning into a pillar of salt, West Hollywood will get bombed from the sky, and someone is going to commit infanticide.
These guys are disgusting sexist relics, and Tamra: YOU ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT HIM!! He is controlling, unkind, and treats you like property. WTF?! You wouldn’t accept that treatment for your daughters. Don’t accept it for yourself. Simon is bitter, caustic and unhappy with his own failures.
Alexis – You have full natural rights under God, the Constitution and everybody! The traditional Christian couple celebrates each gender as God made us. Neither is above the other. Each has inherent value. I hope you’re not being abused physically, but honey, honestly, there’s a reason why cults were popular. Controlling men try to say God granted them power bigger than what you can conceive. A man is sexist if he puts his own wishes above your own, as a matter of principle. Don’t accept that. No matter who he claims to be getting the word from.
Traditional values = do unto others, respect for what you don’t understand, and love and compassion. Not ego, misogyny and warping a sacred text to suit centuries of prejudice against women. Please visit amazon to read this:http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Feminist-Reader-Library-Classics/dp/0812974603/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1262922947&sr=1-1-spell
and this:
http://www.amazon.com/Yes-Means-Visions-Female-Without/dp/1580052576/ref=pd_sim_b_3#reader_1580052576
No One has a right to control you. You are free!
I am not a fan of Vicki, but in this instance I have to say she had a right to be upset. They all knew it was a girl’s trip, suggested and planned by Vicki. I don’t believe that Alexis when she says she didn’t know, everybody else knew. If Tamra and Alexis knew their husbands didn’t want them to go without them, then they should have declined the invitation. But, of course, Bravo wouldn’t want the women to act like they have manners and know how to handle an awkward situation so that is why they invited they guys. Unless Simon, Jim and Slade are complete morons, they knew Bravo wanted controversy and since they wanted to assert their neanderthal characteristics (and get more screen time) they were happy to accept.
I dont know what the truth is but it seems multiple people involved had a different view than Vicki. Gretch said she never was even invited by Vicki.
From Gretchs blog
Since I didn’t get a chance to blog about Florida I want to clear up something since the show this week starts out with Vicki saying “thank you” to Donn for not coming to Florida and that it was supposed to be a “girls only” trip to Florida. That was never the premise that any of us “other women” were aware of, and to be clear I was never personally invited by Vicki to Florida. Being that we are on a show that takes up most of our time and a show that requires us to travel at times, it would only make sense that our significant others would be with us on some or most of those trips. The men coming on this trip should of never been a main part of the storyline and it got blown way of out proportion due to Vicki wanting to make a stink about it. Vicki for goodness sakes opted to go out with another couple the same night we all went on the boat trip (thus still being the third wheel as she professed she was absolutely NOT going to be with us woman on the boat.)
My guess is Vicki didn’t want Gretchen to go so she didn’t ask her. The producers probably had to invite and include her.
Simon and Jim probably made a stink about being left to take care of their kids so they got to go as well. Lets face it, Slade isn’t really ‘one of the guys’ and is probably uncomfortable in all male situations. I think they sense he has ‘tendencies’ and it makes them all nervous. His thing is to rip on the women to gain acceptance from women haters like Simon and Jim.
Somebogy needs to tell Gretchen it is ’should have’ instead of ’should of’ and explain the use of plurals to her. I can see why she would be a pole dancer if not for the show. They ’should have’ dropped her by parachute on Vegas along the way.
I’m totally with Vicki on this. I almost fell off my chair during the ep in which Jim Bellino said he “wouldn’t allow” his wife to go to Greece on her own, as if she were some brainless twit who couldn’t be trusted or wasn’t smart enough to travel alone. Vicki said from the start it was “girls only” but these guys are too insecure to stay home. Apparently the truth is none of these guys trust their wives to be away from them.
Totally team Vicki … and it kinda pains me to say that cause she annoys the hell outta me. But it was GIRLS weekend you morons. GIRLS! That means NO MEN. Sheesh!
Oh My GOD….I can’t believe I side with Vivky but I do…is it so unusuall that girls or guys for that fact want to get away and just hang out with each other….men and women alike can let their hair down and have some good clean fun without their partner. I think Don and Vicky have the most normal relationship of all…although I think Vivky has some serious control and insecurity issues…Alexis and Jim are sickening…they are so fake and I can not stand them she is such a tool and he is just a sleezy guy with money who bought a cheep dime store wife and gave her some tits and a nose job…oh but I forgot she is a christian…..oh really…..thats a good one…..and although I don’t like Tamra ( I don’t like any of them) shame on Vicky for reveling her confidences…girlfriends should be able to vent without worrying about the friend reveiling confidential vents to the spouse they are venting about….or does Vivky never get mad at Don and tell a girlfriend…oh thats right she just belittles him in public and laughs as though it is a joke and not hurtful…..they all need therapy…
Totally agree with Vicki!. It was a “Girls Trip” The husbands/boyfriends that went were ridiculous. They are VERY controlling of there wives and are insecure that their wives will do something they are not supposed to. Obviously Vicki and Don are not insecure and they trust each other to be apart.
@Rio – I agree with you that the husbands went to Florida to keep an eye on their wives. But I also believe that Donn can only take Vicki in small doses. He might be a mouse but he’s not dumb.