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On to part 2 of the Real Housewives of New York City. The drama raged on for the housewives as we get a continuation of the ladies rehashing what went down this season.
We start of with Jill, who stormed off the set in Part 1, returning and apologizing. The verbal smackdown on Jill continues, and Alex states the obvious that she believes the sole reason Jill wanted to make up with Bethenny is because of the public backlash. Jill makes a point, an excellent one at that, when she says she wanted to make up with Bethenny while the show was still filming, before the public backlash began. Bethenny however had her own rebuttal saying Jill did not want to appear as being mean to the girl who just got engaged and pregnant. Oddly enough, Jill says Bethenny is right.
Bethenny is then asked a good question, which is why didn’t she make up with Jill when Jill was ready? Bethenny shares that it was a very stressful time in her life, and reveals she had a complicated pregnancy, suffering a blood clot while pregnant (something the audience, I included, was not aware of.) Bethenny says she just didn’t want to deal with the Jill drama at that point in her life.
The question of the day comes when Andy tells Jill that Simon and some of her castmates think she gets jealous when others do well. Jill denies this, and Ramona reveals Jill did indeed call up her when Bethenny got her spin-off show, telling her not to film with Bethenny. Jill goes on an angry rampage and accuses Ramona of being a liar. “Are you kidding me?” laments Jill. “You are such a liar,” she says to Ramona. Literally seconds later, Jill admits to what Ramona accuses her of and even apologizes. We can now add liar to Jill’s long list of bad behavior.
Kelly then brings up an actual good point when she says Bethenny at one point told Jill not to film with her. Bethenny owns up to this right away, saying ‘Yeah, I didn’t know you at the time, and I didn’t like you.’ Upon first seeing this scene, I thought this made Bethenny a huge hypocrite, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought the two situations, though similar are not exactly the same. How many times have you told your friend or BFF to stay away from someone who you deem isn’t a good person, or try to warn them about hanging out with someone in general? Bethenny and Kelly were not friends, but Jill and Bethenny had a history. I’ll let you decide on whether or not this makes Bethenny a hypocrite.
The conversation moves along and Jill is once again caught in another lie when she tries to deny being aware of the ailing health of Bethenny’s father. Jill attempts to blame editing for telling the world Bethenny was a bad friend for not being there for her during Bobby’s cancer, when in actuality she never told Bethenny that Bobby had cancer. Jill continues to get viewer questions about her behavior, and at this point, I’m actually starting to feel a bit bad for her, that is until she decides to go into victim mode again and attempts another walk off the set. Sighs, yes it must be tough having to sit there and hear about your bad behavior, but so what? She did it and she should own it. She is absolutely not a victim at all, and should stop acting like one. Yes it must have been hard, but Jill should have Toughened up, Owned it, Explained it, and then Moved on. And how ironic is it that the person who keeps notes has no desire to hear others’ notes about her. There was no need for the crocodile tears and bratty walk offs. Oddly enough, Bethenny came to Jill’s defense at this point.
Next up is Sonja Morgan, who’s tape footage from the season actually earned her an applause from her castmates, a first in Bravo reunion history I think. We get the obligatory sex talk from Samantha Sonja, who is later on asked a good viewer question: Why isn’t her 9-year-old daughter on the show? Sonja, who was actually offered a slot on the show in its 1st season, reveals she was hesitant about joining the show and simply wasn’t sure putting her daughter on there would be a good idea.
We get to see some footage of the ladies all making snarky comments about each other. Jill immediately apologizes to Ramona for calling her an idiot saying, “I was trying to be funny, I was trying to be like Bethenny. It’s not working for me.” No Jillian, it’s not. We then move on to LuAnn and Bethenny. Bethenny is accused of being a bully, which I have to disagree with. An obnoxious snarky mean loud mouth? Yes. A bully? No. None of the ladies on this show are fragile little numbers. Bravo knows to cast women who are NOT afraid of confrontation, Alex included. Even Kelly, who pretends to be a little fragile fly, showed her true aggressive colors on the St. John trip. And I’m sure her ex-boyfriend can also allude to this fact. LuAnn says all is well and that she’s past all the snarky comments. It dawned on me that this is a great quality LuAnn seems to possess. She doesn’t hold grudges and truly seems to let things go, albeit usually after receiving or demanding an apology.
We finally get to the climax of the night when it’s time to discuss Kelly‘s breakdown and just all around bizarro behavior on the show. We start with the footage, mostly from Kelly’s St. John trip, where she is pretty much shown attacking and antagonizing her castmates. Kelly can be seen laughing while watching some of the footage, while the other ladies keep a serious face. Yes it might just be a nervous laughter, but with Kelly, you never know.
The footage stops airing and it’s now time for Kelly to be interrogated by Andy. Right off the bat, almost sounding like a battery robot, Kelly starts rambling about systematic bullying, refusing to take ANY responsibility for her actions on the trip or even on the show. Ramona butts in right away, telling Kelly to seriously stop saying she was bullied. Andy tells Ramona to give Kelly a chance to talk, but even I can understand Ramona’s frustration, as she interrupted Kelly quite a few more times. The viewer in me was getting very impatient, and did not want to listen to Kelly’s lies and very distorted version of the events that actually took place.
Kelly, who sounded very rehearsed, continues on her rambling about systematic bullying. Bethenny wants to know if “systematic bullying is a medical term” and Ramona says “she can’t anymore.” Kelly claims she is being bullied at the moment, saying, “its happening right now,” because Ramona and Bethenny interrupted her. Hasn’t every single one of the ladies been interrupted while trying to explain something or give their side of a story during this reunion show? Evidently it’s only bullying when it’s done to Kelly, who herself butted into the Jill/Bethenny argument earlier on in the show.
Kelly continues to spew her BS and says, “I don’t like being scared by four women.” Kelly claims the ladies had to have an intervention with Bethenny on the trip telling her to lay off Kelly, to which Bethenny immediately chimes in, “You are delusional. You need help.” Judging from Bethenny’s reaction and comments, I’m going to add the “intervention” to the list of events that while not having taken place in real life, took place in Kelly’s head. Remember Bethenny’s father had just died, and she was experiencing pregnancy complications. Are we really supposed to believe the ladies pulled Bethenny to the side to warn her about Kelly in spite of what she was going through at the time? I’m not buying it plus Bethenny was very mellow on the trip compared to her typical behavior. What we did see was that Kelly began to unravel almost immediately, after arriving on the trip.
Another one of Kelly’s made up events? Claiming Bravo forced her to go on the trip. Andy Cohen denied this three times, but Kelly stuck to her version of events, saying, “Andy, it is true though, but thank you, I appreciate that.”
LuAnn adds her two cents and makes some very sensible comments, even telling Kelly she “instigated a lot of what went on,” then asking Kelly was there a lot we the audience didn’t see? Immediately, both Kelly, Bethenny and Ramona answer yes! But for different reasons. Bethenny and Ramona say what was not shown was 10x worse that what actually happened, while Kelly believes the ladies’ mistreatment of her was also worse that what was shown, except no mistreatment of Kelly was shown, other than the ladies defending themselves from her insane and asinine attacks.
“Kelly you have psychological and emotional problems, and we’re all taking to you like we’re going to make some sense out of you and it’s crazy,” yells a frustrated Bethenny. Kelly, who likely shares the same incompetent media consultants as Jill, took a page out of Jill’s handbook and walked off the set. And end scene…
But the worst is yet to come. On the last part of the reunion show, we will actually hear Kelly admit that Sonja was really nice to her on the trip and that Sonja was a good friend to her. This is extremely crucial information, considering Kelly had claimed on multiple occasions, in countless media interviews, and even in her looney Anti-bullying PSA that she was bullied by all four women on the trip. So Kelly will basically admit to being a liar Thursday night, without even realizing it I’m sure.
I will share my final thoughts on Kelly and the rest of the ladies when I do the final reunion recap this Friday.
Watch What Happens – WWH was great last night. It was a pretty funny episode with both Ramona and Dina Manzo as guests. The best or worst part of the show came when Bravo wanted viewers to choose who needed therapy the most. Our options? Kelly, Danielle, Dina, and Ramona. I thought it was cruel and unusual punishment to try to force us to choose between Kelly and Danielle, who are both in dire need of immense help. I will add though, in my very unprofessional opinion, that while Danielle is in need of an intense drawn out 25 year therapy session, Kelly is likely more in need of meds. And in case you’re wondering, Kelly beat out Danielle by 2%.
The final part of the reunion show airs this Thursday at 9PM Eastern time.
TELL US – WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE RECAP AND THE REUNION PART 2?
@Lauren:
“or a 40 yr old allergic to pants”
Hahahahahahaha! I almost spit my coffee out with that one!
Actually Lauren, I have seen Bethenny carry a black Birkin bag that she has been carrying since Season 1. You remember Season 1 when she went to borrow a dress from Tommy Hilfiger’s sister. Borrowing clothes is common for celebrities and designers love it because they get noticed. Bethenny’s old and new apartment had minimal furnishings. You do know that celebs get a lot of free stuff. Apparently you missed the episode showing Kelly’s wall of purses. As matter of fact, Bethenny (and Sonja) are the only NY housewives that we have not seen shop so where do you come up with you views. I like AnitaVacation (great postings) am not saying that you are wrong but I do often wonder if you are seeing episodes that are not shown to everyone else because I don’t see what you see. I am trying to but maybe you can help me with this. I am not in love with Bethenny or any of the others but your dislike for her seems deeper sometimes. Maybe she reminds you of someone. She reminds me of myself (I’ll admit it). I can say some crazy stuff, off the hip with no problems. I not always proud of it, but it is me.
I enjoy yours as well iknowsit.
,As well as Lauren.Anita,puhp,exposed, IJS. Wallflower,SweetCakes,Scarlette,Eva,Carla, joan,Kenny,Leslie,RebeccaJ,Rebecca,GingerTee, and some others.
We don’t always agree, That’s ok.
We all have something to say,it’s fun to read everyones insights.
don’t forget gabby !
hahha….
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@154 LOL ..Gabby,Madge..the list goes on.
@Idontknowsh*T im a guy your pretty much not able to process information correctly without commonsense. As long as your comment on here your talking to me aswell as everyone here thats reading hense why its called a forum.
@151 Anita Vacation I think Bethenny has bout 4 Birkin Bags (YIKES!!) I remember on a radio interview with Wendy Williams she asked did she buy her Birkin’s and Beth said a few male friends gifted them to her, so im assuming rich ex boyfriends. She admitted back than she tried dating rich but she dosn’t have the heart for it, she needs to date someone she actually likes.
I believe Herme’s don’t give away their bags. I seen also seen a interview with Beyonce who said she dosn’t have one because they don’t give freebees like other designers she receive from and although she is rich she wouldn’t pay that much for a bag.
Love ya Kenny!
Holy freakin Canoli 4 Birkin Bags..I would Die..Just die!
We’re all trying to figure Kelly out & it’s tough because I’ve never met anyone quite like her. I think she has some type of dyslexia. She hears & sees things differently than the rest of us. She couldn’t be more wrong about most things. A personalized gift bag to her was impersonal. Being invited on a trip was her being forced. Someone being civil to her was unkind ,threatening & bullying. Bethenny not talking about her to the press was her putting hurtful things in the press. The all time best is Bethenny getting engaged, pregnant & a new show was really her trying to Kill Kelly. In real life Kelly has superficial relationships with people so probably most don’t get to see this in her. This show forces her to really try to connect with a group & she isn’t capable. Witty bantor to her is so above her that it sounds like bullying.
I was so upset regarding her behavior toward the other women on the trip that it even stressed me out after watching it. To see her turn that around & blame the other woman maddens me. I don’t know why I am so affected but I am. I try to get people like her out of my life & now Bravo is bringing it into my home. I really want her off the show & am hoping after her arguing with Andy they pull the plug on her.
@Kenny–well, according to celebritynetworth.com (I don’t know how accurate it is), Bethenny is now worth millions of dollars (I think it’s around 7–can’t remember). She’s done so well for herself!
If she wants to buy a ‘B’ bag–more power to her! If she wants to buy 4–then that’s up to her too. Personally, I’d have a hard time spending that much money on a purse (now I will buy LV’s, Gucci, Prada, and others in the luxury area of goods–but 10,000+ is too crazy even for a shopoholic like me).
And yes, I am sure you are right–Hermes isn’t giving away any freebies! With prices that outrageous, they’d be bankrupt if they did!
Have I met/known women like RHNYC? Yes. Closest was when my husband worked in Georgetown/DC & our family lived close by. Are they like my closest/dearest girlfriends of many years? No.
Lived in various states S to N..since childhood & adulthood. Originally, from SW & have family spread out over S, SW, & MW. Husband is from MW & has family in MW & NE.
Have watched ALL shows & reunions. Will watch Reunion III.
My take:
A–could only take “it” for so long. J is a narcissist like my mother & m-i-l. Bobby co-dependent like my father & f-i-l. She just wants J & K..to back up allegations with proof/fact(s).
B–Queen of One Liners. Yes, I may think exactly what she thinks, but keep it to myself. Can be tough for sure. Does not mince words..does not BS..& does not want to hear BS. Wants any & all allegations from J & K (just like Alex)..to be backed up w/ proof/fact(s). Don’t think she wanted K on her new show since K has made her fair share of “digs” from the start..plus all the allegations. K is “scary” & I wouldn’t want her on my show…..or island “vacation”.
J–With all my problems/frustration w/ J..like letting LuLu listen in to what should have been a private call between her & B, etc…or, the over-the-top fake/phony/insincere congrats to B (& seems very nice/sweet..and cute..Jason)..on engagement..the whole ring bit..PLEASE……It was Bobby’s cancer. Something about Bobby’s throat having to be cut or slit(?) from “ear to ear”. I don’t know, but I took that literally..probably just being her usual overly-dramatic self (all about me)..& I couldn’t see a scar from ear to ear. My husband’s sister had 2nd bout w/ breast cancer..spread to brain..& she died this past Thanksgiving. My m-i-l still found time to be her usual mean self & make her digs..esp to me. Cancer is NO excuse to treat people badly. Never heard of “cancer card” before..now I know.
K–She has deep psychological issues. Very sad. She may feel ganged up on..”bullied”..however, she has made her fair share of snide remarks, digs (TOO MANY to count), & lied. I don’t think she is a victim. The whole back & forth exchange w/ Andy. Please. He said she was NOT forced to go on island vacation…Wow! what a scary fake smile she gave Andy. She can’t back up allegations against A or B w/ proof/facts.
L–LuLu. Haughty, arrogant, condescending, & meddlesome. (Think that’s why B called her a snake. NO KIDDING. The digs made to B at the fashion show & getting in-between all of B’s attempts to make up w/ J. No, Th-e-e-e Countess LuAnn born to ….&….&….&….who gives out all kinds of “advice” is not innocent by any means. She seems to demand apologies at times, usually gets them (w/ exception of Mario) & then she seems to move on. Yes I admit, for whatever motive she had, I was glad when she told K that she did instigate. I also admit that I won’t be listening to any of her songs.
R–Says many things I would never say..ever. I would never tell B what R did on the bridge. I think her apology to B later was sincere. I also would have never told K what I thought about her breasts..even if I thought that..& esp not in a group like that. Here’s the big HOWEVER, I think she’s honest/does not lie like J & K…apologies are always sincere…& she wanted to change for the better & has. (Like Alex said…something to this effect…can’t expect R to change overnight.) I don’t think she is sucking up to B, or to anyone. Doesn’t seem to have that “suck up” gene in her DNA. Wow! She called J out regarding B’s new show. J’s reaction….classic. CLASSIC JILL. Even R looked scared by J’s reaction.
Sonja–Been married to same man for 24yrs & have 2 kids. Never had a one-night stand. Guess I’m boring, but I think Sonja is indeed a b-r-e-a-t-h of fresh air. I was impressed how she handled the really freaky/scary island scene/exchange between the other women & K. Again, I think K needs serious help….10 times worse?!?! (Also think J’s surprise was ALMOST as scary w/ the over-the-top fake smile and GRAND entrance…like all was well w/ my BFFs…kiss/kiss…JUST SHOOT ME!)
Im assuming Sonja found this new sexed up liberation from being divorced did you see who she was married to? Granted he was a Billionaire if you were married to Mr.Six 10 years and finally can be free im sure her chucky was like a free dog out of the yard growling at everything around, LOL love her. She is a sexy woman and I seen some photo’s of her where she is isn’t shy bout her body but in a classy sexy way.
‘kenly” …you are absolutely correct ..
if you are an example of commonsense i certainly don’t have any of what you got..
you are certainly ‘common’ …
nobody addressed you ’till you butted your big schnaz into a comment not addressed to you ..
do me a fave hon’ stick to birkin bags..
OMG@Kenny! You are so hilarious! I love reading what you had to say about Sonja with this: “im sure her chucky was like a free dog out of the yard growling at everything around”
LOLOLOL! That was great!
I love Sonja too! And I agree–John Morgan is seriously OLD–I mean, he’s like 80 or something! What kind of action can that be? No wonder Sonja’s a horn dog now.
Personally, I wouldn’t mind seeing all these ladies gone and starting a whole new cast centered around the fabulous Sonja T. Morgan = “Sonya’s Sexual Escapades in the City.”
Well ‘Idontknowsh*t’ Herme’s does make Birkin’s for men but I don’t want to be like Theresa and spend money on frivilous materialism to make myself look better when I have other things going for myself. You made a public comment on a public forum its obvious your on Kelly’s bandwagon because you can’t grasp the fact that whatever is being posted would have free reign to be commented on even if its by me or one of the other 100 commenters. If your going to give me a women’s name be a little more creative you sack of loose screws, but i’d prefer Edna *Thanx*.
I know I live a pretty boring mundane life and my guilty pleasures are watching these shows then coming to the forums…But I will have to say that in the past few days I have been turned off by the PERSONAL comments that are being made to each other ( hurtful ones )
None of know each other and we should refrain from personal attacks on each other…
I want to HAVE FUN when I am here….
Diva
Sonja was married to a Morgan…as one of my girlfriends calls it “moldy money”. I could be wrong, but I think Sonja mentioned in one of the episodes…something to the effect…that her husband cheated on her…that’s why the divorce. Could be I’m almost 50 & not hearing a quick sentence thrown out. Think I need to get a hearing aid. (I’m still wondering if I heard correctly from LuLu that she was on her 4th marriage in an episode. Know T-h-e-e Count was.) I think Sonja is smart, nice, sincere, witty…..and would be a blast to have at a party. I’d invite her over. My husband was COO for a world-wide co. before becoming an entrepreneur. We’re not billionaires (& have to say if I was I still wouldn’t buy certain bags),…. but I think Sonja would have fun.
@Anita Vacation lol I would so see Sonja having a dating show she is hilarious. She made sure she did that 10 year bid to secure that fortune if she was going to be with that old man she’s going to get something out of it, lol. You know that artist from the episode of where they had the charity? Well… just saying they made art together LOL.
Kenny
I just find Sonja refreshing,enertaining,funny,smart,.I would love to hang out with her.
Kenly …Kenly…
dear girl …i do not care for kelly but even if i did that would be my right , see?
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one does not attack & call names because one does not agree with comment …
so dry your uncouth eyes & try to be consoled with your birkin..
you can do it ..
appreciate your comment designdiva ..
this forum WAS fun until a coupla people decided to attack posters for no reason …
makin insults without cause is rather crude ..
LOL @169 your so cute I never seen you around these parts before.. now tell me from which gutter you ascended from?
@Kenny–lol–I think Sonja’s “made art” with every strapping young (or otherwise) man she meets–and probably a few ladies also.
She’s refreshing and bright–so different from the darkness that has taken over so many of the ladies this past year (you listening, Jill and Kelly?).
@153 Dyana – Thanks hon! I thought I got lost in the shuffle – Reunion Part 3 better be worth it!!
@Anita Vacation.. what do you think about Jennifer? I think the short time she was on there I didn’t care too much for her but she’s a hard worker, very smart, but she has a two faced side. When she was at the wedding I was dying with what she said about that poor wedding planner on tv LOL. I say replace Kelly with Ms. Gilbert.
@Dyana–I hear what you are saying. When I first got here, I felt attacked by a couple of people (personal stuff too) and unfortunately, my first reaction is to punch someone back when they punch me.
However, I’m not doing that anymore–not allowing myself to get sucked in to people making comments about *me and my life* when I am bashing a reality tv personality! So, when I see someone do that–I just ignore it now.
It would be great if we all could remember that we don’t have to agree and in fact, that’s what makes forums interesting (how boring if we all agreed).
@Kenny–it’s really hard to tell about Jennifer. From what they showed? Bor-ring! But then at the very end (after she tossed back a couple of glasses of champers at Ramona’s renewal) she got snarky with the fat wedding planner Ramona hired.
She’s apparently a graduate of MIT and I think she might be too grown up and mature to be on this show! Andy loves a hot mess and I don’t think she’s that much of one!
I don’t think she’ll be back. But then, who knows what goes on in the twisted and lovely mind of Andy Cohen (I love him!).
@ 170…thanks….I guess some folks READ more into what is posted than understanding what the post is about..does that make sense ???
I’m all into jibs and jabs provided it’s done in ajokingly matter…Sometimes we all forget to LAUGH AT OURSELVES…
So..whats on the drinking menu this thursday and do we get to shots everytime Jill rolls her eyes ??
I am SO waiting to see Ramona stomp her feet to show her complete frustration with Jills inability to understand how mean spirited she really is…It’s like taling to a hard headed teenager who
JUST DOESNT GET IT….Been there done that….
Now back to our regularly broadcasted show…
Off to flip burgers and drop some fries !!!
Peace and Hugs to ALLLLLLLLL OF YOU…
Diva
@Anita #175..
A simple question or comment can turn into a hot mess in a minute. I have found whats best for me is to clear it up as soon as possible.
People are going to disagree,or read into something someone has posted all the time.
It happened between you and I, we said what we had to say and that was that, alot of times it’s a misunderstanding of whatsomeone has posted.
Just agree to disagree and call it a day..freakin’ life goes on.
@Dyana–totally agree and sorry if I’ve come across harsh at times.
I think I relate to Bethenny because, like her, I have a little ‘street’ in me. I can come across harsher/snarkier than I would like to at times.
But I always try to be woman enough to admit when I’m wrong and then (moreover) to change my behavior after I do admit it!
@177 So Diva..You Talking to me Girlfriend?? Since I ‘m the resident Bartender here..
Whatca Want??
Shots everytime Jills rolss her eyes..LMAO!
No apologies needed Anita..
We both apologized that day, it was a misunderstanding of what each of us were trying to say..I will always apologize also, I nevver want to offend anyone or hurt anones feelings.
So, Alex can forgive Ramona & Bethenny on comments about her & Simon being revolting, making their skin crawl, being creepy& Romona’s comments about her kids behavior at the 21 Club but is now trying to impress Bethenny (and try to get on her new show)but can’t forgive Jill? and by the way, did she watch past shows where her children were not behaving and she did not say a word when her son was stabbing Jason#1 hamburger at the 21 club or misbehaving at Zarin’s Fabrics? I guess status means alot to some people-face time on TV means more than staying home if you do not have a babsitter…
Also – all 3 should watch the reunion – if that was not bullying, then what is?
Bethenny is critical of Jill’s voice – did she watch 1st episode of her own show – that voice…
I realize that Bethenny is the Golden Child this season-big deal, she got pregnant, got married & stepped on everyone to get her brand going – she was never a real housewife anyway
These forums are more entertaining then anything the RHONJ have to offer!!! I agree that Sonja should be the next spinoff star of BRAVO. I actually enjoy her more then B. She does, however, service the RHONY series well by offering a neutral no-BS take on things. Anyway, I love Sonja. Thats all.
Iknowsit…
I’ve been puzzled by your continued usage of the term “vapid” and it’s related forms. The interesting thing about it is that, from my point of view, Bethany is as far from vapid as she can possibly be.
vap·id /ˈvæpɪd/ Show Spelled[vap-id] Show IPA
–adjective
1. lacking or having lost life, sharpness, or flavor; insipid; flat: vapid tea.
2. without liveliness or spirit; dull or tedious: a vapid party; vapid conversation.
Bethany is a self-proclaimed/acknowledged smartmouth, with a very sharp tongue. She has offended each of her castmates and has owned it every time. I’ve yet to see her deny any of her actions or comments to or about any of her castmates. She does have a tendency to lash out with her claws out, but she has owned up to that as well. Her friendship with Ramona and Alex is refreshing, I think. The fact that they have been able to be supportive of her without any taking notes or counting or demanding anything of her in return is what I think friends should do. With Jill, while she did “support” Bethany, I think that it became too much about what she had done and not why she did it. If you do something out of love for another person, there really is no reason to stand up and beat your chest and scream “LOOK AT ME, THIS IS WHAT I DID”. I think that Jill’s reaction to the death of Bethany’s father (offering to fly to California and help her) is wonderful, because she made that offer out of love and concern. But, then she turns around and slams her wedding as a “Circus”…you love me/you hate me – all in one not so tidy package. So, where do you go from there?
@Joan–that is exactly why I was confused by the use of the word vapid in relation to Bethenny–she is just about the opposite of that, whether you love or hate her.
oh just fill a kiddy pool with jello and let ‘em go at it.
“But Rhonda, dahlink, who does that now? I mean, really, dahlink, maybe kellaid, but never jello, how goshe, dahlink!” (giggle, giggle)
#184 Joan
In my opinion..& believe me & everyone who has ever known me..I never like to rock the boat..but I couldn’t agree more. Again, SO many comments made here are better than Comedy Central. I like to hear everyone’s opinions. Now, I REALLY need to get to swim practice…get all need to get done tomorrow so I can tune into Reunion III. (Oh, & I think it was #177 The Designdiva…laughed my head off!)
Gerry I don’t think everyone here believes Bethenny to be the Golden Child, but we do see her own up to her bad and she admits that she is changed. Jill on the other hand would not own up to any wrong at first. When it looked like Jill was winning her private war, she took it further. Bethenny admittedly would not fight. Bethenny’s life started changing for the better, people started looking at her differently and THEN Jill became sorry. Alex admitted that she forgave Ramona and Bethenny because once they apologized, the bad comments ceased. Jill apologized and kept right on fueling the fire. I still have the hardest time accepting her trying to put Alex out of Jen’s house. Who does that? We’ve seen Alex try to mend fences with Jill just like Bethenny did and Jill (in her own words) was not ready to, she likes holding a grudge. That’s fine if it get’s her off, but holding that grudge can make for a lonely JIll. Remember Jill’s comments, “she liked her current circle of girlfriends and did not want to change it. If people had not started to change their view of Bethenny, Jill probably would not have apologized and kept right on fueling the fire. She does it on her Twitter. She says one thing on the reunion show then goes on Twitter and blasts everyone. I am really tired on seeing her cry because I am not sure her tears are those of one who is sorry. I think they are the tears of a mad person, a person who is mad that she has to apologize when she didn’t do anything to anyone. I would like for her to stay on the show (she’s entertaining). It will be very interesting to see how she fixes it all next season. Time will tell us all. As for the imitations, Bethenny always imitated Jill and Jill found it funny.
Hi Everyone,
@Dyana, I am definitely in for cocktails tomorrow. I will have a mojito please hehe. I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the look and head nod in Kelly’s direction that Andy gave Bethenny when they were talking about “kellade” I thought it was hiliarious and laughed my butt off. Had to rewind it just to get an extra chuckle. Am I wrong, Isn’t Andy the creator of real housewives? I think he is through with her antics and didn’t engage her when she said she was forced because he knew where she would take it.
RH-NY Season 3 – Reunion Pt2
Ramona is such a two-face hypocrite this season that it’s not even funny. She tells Jill that they will be friends forever, while at the same time kissing the She-Devil’s ass. MonAss is a total Exxon Valdez oil spill.
Alex – flying under the radar, at the beginning of the season, until she became the She-Devil’s Dark angel delivering “the message” to Jill – nuff said.
She-Devil Bethenny – the ultimate Mean Girl / vicious to the core. By her own admission, she is nothing but a bully. Totally envious of Kelly. Apologies don’t mean a thing anymore. Her modus operandi is “backstab, apologize, backstab, and apologize”. She is so full of BS, that she believes her owns lies. She was a basket case at the Virgin Islands, after serving Kelly a raw stake with a string around it. She felt apart after LuAnn said she could be quite scary.
The woman has no shame … she will pee on a stick or ice bucket (in upcoming wedding show) all for cameras, crew, and the world to see and more self-absorption. She is a terribly insecure ho-bag who craves the limelight.
Sonja – initially seemed like a breath of fresh air, but her Mae West shtick may get old after a while. She did let it slip re: non-paying customers
(LOL).
LuAnn – other than contributing to an auto-tune song for Andy’s Drag Queen album, she basically flew under the radar this season.
Kelly – I have a feeling that what was left out in the cutting room were scenes from the Mean Girls provoking Kelly to the point where we she loses it w/ the She-Devil and the witches of east wick. Pour another round of beers/café patron, bartender plz.
I hope that Jill’s and Kelly’s salaries were doubled this year b/c they were the recipients of one of the nastiest seasons of the housewives franchise – not to mention the She-Devil’s wrath. With friends like RudeMona and She-Devil who needs enemies???
I am just going to be silent
Got back from swim practice. MUST be addicted. NEVER have been on a blog..posting..like this before…in my life. I love that you can say what you think. Just had to say that I noticed that too #190 lovenyc. Laughed my head off!
Watching Reunion III…will have either a 7&7 or rum/coke.
@GingerTee- I think you are taking Bethenny for more than what she is. Yes, celebrities get free stuff in exchange for bringing attention to the brand. However, Bethenny isn’t Victoria Beckham or Beyonce. When a luxe brand like Hermes gives something away, they are going to give it to a celebrity big enough to generate free Buzz, the kind of celebrity that doesn’t need an introduction. and I don’t think Hermes would want a woman peeing on a stick for a reality show lol Baby Phat maybe but Hermes, not this year.
I am neutral. I like Bethenny but that doesn’t mean I won’t notice times when she is being a hypocrite. Take a look at B’s home video, she shows inside her closet. She’s at about 4 Birkin bags, which is fine. Just don’t call other women dumb for wearing designer crap when you are an outright label wh***. And don’t come on TV pretending to be a 100% frugalista, when you showed up with a $3k Louis Vuitton purse. Why not just admit you like designer stuff.
@GingerTee – from day one I’ve said that BECAUSE I am not a fanatic of the show like some viewers and I accept the fact that these women have nothing to do with my personal life, you will not see the disgruntled comments from me. Maybe you should be the one removing yourself from the show a little. The fact that you are defending B as if you worked for her, shows you might be a little too wrapped up in the show
@Kenny Is 10 the magic number to get a real alimony settlement? I was always curious how the settlement can either be too much or an insult. Sonja clearly got too much and poor LuAnn is roaming around Manhattan with Princess taste and peasant pockets.
Lauren,
It could be that Sonia married smartly and perhaps LuAnn didn’t do as much due diligence on the Count prior to tripping his light fantastic. Even though she married into the French aristocracy, that does not mean that there was an aristocratic bank balance to accompany his title. Wasn’t there an earlier RT article during the first divorce discussion about his shrinking pocketbook? Anyway, I did a bit of research this afternoon while doing my treatment and found that Sonia Morgan’s net worth is in the range of $30 million, while Countless has only a paltry $2 million. But, doesn’t the Count or Count Chocula have more than one ex-wife in his pockets?
This information is from Celebrity Networth, searching under “What is the networth of the Real Housewives?”.
By the way, I’ve found an interview that Kelly did with Samantha Ettus after her first season. Long 35+ minutes, but you see why she is so odd at times and where the hair thing started and the destruction of her marriage via her success and writing the Bikini Book. She is truly an odd duck, but lover her or not, she does bring an unexpected oddity to the show that cannot be scripted. She is truly in her own universe with cartwheels and homework.
Ooops, here is the link…
http://obsessedtv.com/2009/05/samantha-ettus-interviews-reality-tv-star-kelly-bensimon/
@Lauren I mean I don’t think there is a certain number of years that gives you the right to a certain amount of $. It depends on the prenup and your lawyers, but I say to be married to a Morgan for 10 years with child may lead to a nice cushion.
@Joan your so right I think Luann saw that title and got happy not knowing that it dosn’t come with a salary unless he has a family trust. He does have a good career though whatever he does. But the Count has 3 other ex wives and his lifestyle I KNOW is expensive with the homes and traveling.
That Celebrity Networth site is wrong though, some of the stuff are off like saying Bethenny is worth $14 million which I doubt is anywhere near true.
Lauren, I don’t think I have said any more or less than other posters. You might want to go back and read some of your own comments because if that is how you speak of someone you like then my heart goes out to those you don’t. I do like Bethenny at times and I don’t find her to be any more a hypocrite then anyone else on that show. What I like most about her is her drive and the fact that she owns her bad, she’s not sitting there denying it. Now this is my opinion and you do not have to agree or like it, I still get to have one. Your comments seem to be those of someone who is into the show just as much as others here and if you don’t think so, like I suggested earlier, you might want to read some of your earlier postings. I was not knocking you about the Birkin bag thing. I stated that I always see that same black one and that I know she like other celebs borrows designer clothes. I will admit that I have never been or seen the inside of Bethenny’s closet (maybe you follow her a little more). I only see Bethenny on the RHONY because that is as far as I take it. If that gives you the impression that I need to pull back, it’s okay but when you start paying my electric and cable bill then you can tell me what and how much to watch. (okay that was a shot, my claws extracted a bit)