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It's no shock to any of  you that the drama was front and center on last night's Real Housewives of New Jersey when the retreat that Teresa Giudice organized turned into a Joe Boxer situation with Poison Gorga battling brother-in-law Juicy Giudice.  Kathy Wakile has her own take on what's gone down thus far this season, and she's talking to OK about the craziness.

Discussing how it's hard to re-watch the drama after the fact, Kathy explains, "It scratches the surface again and that hurt keeps coming up. It’s hard to watch it because you’re like, ‘Oh my God—that’s what we look like.’ Sometimes it’s about the hurt and not about the actions that make is so bad. And we’ve come so far that you don’t want that to suck you back in."

She adds, "You have to rise above it and say, ‘Okay, I’m glad I’m not there anymore.’ It’s easy to add negativity because you now see what the other party was saying and you can easily start saying things and falling into that trap. You start reliving those patterns so you’re really not in a better place if you allow yourself to do the same things. Then you really haven’t learned anything."

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Likewise, watching her co-stars confessionals isn't always easy.  Kathy shares, "You have to think, ‘Okay, this is where we are now, this is what you said to my face, this is what we agreed on. Are we going back there?’"

Kathy believes the most shocking thing to happen thus far this season was to see how Tre and Joe reacted at the retreat.  She says, "I think how after a heated, difficult situation when we went back to our rooms or would walk away— how could [Teresa and Joe] be so callus about it and not let it affect [them]? Like that’s hard. How could it not affect you? How is everything fine and not internalize everything that happened. Watching that happen is the hardest part. We know what we were going through together and a joke is one thing but then to be joyous—that’s really mind blowing."

Of course, Kathy has nothing but praise for Dr. V from Bravo's LA Shrinks.  Kathy reveals, "She made a lot of progress. We didn’t actually get a one on one with her because Teresa and Joe kind of monopolized the time—rightfully so. I’m glad she was there because she made a difference. She was able to speak our language. You get an intellectual doctor and you’re like, ‘What are you talking about?’ She came in and called bullsh!t. ‘Shut up, you’re bullshitt!ng. You’re out of line. Take a look at yourself because what you did was wrong.’"

Kathy continues, "[Dr. V] spoke a language we understand. ‘Shut the f*ck up and listen to what I’m telling you. That wasn’t nice what you said and it was bullsh!t.’ We needed someone who spoke our language and knew what was going on. Dr. V grew up how we grew up in an Italian household without a silver spoon in her mouth."

When asked if the epic Joe smack down was inevitable, Kathy responds, "No that didn’t have to happen but when men get into a physical altercation, they forget about it. It’s over and go get a beer. Girls will give each other the side eye and never forget about it. Like, ‘Oh she just really threw shade this way!’"

That is very valid point, although I don't think we'll be seeing the Joes bonding over micro brews any time in the near future!

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