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NBCUNIVERSAL UPFRONT EVENTS -- 2017 NBCUniversal Upfront in New York City on Monday, May 15, 2017 -- Pictured: (l-r) Bethenny Frankel,

Well it looks like it’s officially been confirmed that Phaedra Parks won’t be returning to Real Housewives Of Atlanta. Both Andy Cohen and Bethenny Frankel (self-described unofficial Real Housewives expert) are speaking out about the shocking conclusion of the RHOA reunion and the revelation that Phaedra lied about Kandi Burruss saying she wanted to drug and rape Porsha Williams.

Andy all but admits the cast united against Phaedra Obviously- who would trust working with her after that?! Phaedra is already slippery when not wet – now she’s basically spoiled buttermilk curdling the cake!

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Andy reveals that the network considered what to do about Phaedra, and asked “the question” of how to handle things. But “none of the other women wanted to have anything to do with her.”

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“So that’s what you have to look at,” continued Andy. “How do you shoot a show about a group of friends when no one is speaking to one of the friends?” Well considering most of them weren’t friends to begin with, yes – how do you?

As for Phaedra’s allegations that production set her up and is responsible for the rumor, Bethenny defends Bravo and dismisses the allegation completely. “I’ve been doing this for 10 years,” the Real Housewives Of New York star countered. “I actually, sadly, consider myself to be a veteran. The producers do not make you do these things at all.”

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Bethenny, who was herself accused of conspiring with production to expose Luann de Lesseps‘ finance’s cheating last season, denies that producers stir the pot behind the scenes. “The producers don’t know exactly what’s going on, so they might say, ‘Are you going to talk to Kandi about this?’ They don’t know,” she insisted to E! News at the NBC Upfronts.

Bethenny also insists that production would “never” plant a lie within the housewives. “It would be a massive problem,” she contends. “This isn’t The Hills – it’s real. It really is! So, yeah, no, that would never happen.” Oh, yeah? Really? Uh-huh. Mmmkay. Now I’m not saying I believe Phaedra one whit, but everybody knows the producers aren’t that innocent

TELL US – IS BETHENNY BEING TRUTHFUL ABOUT THE PRODUCER’S ROLE? DO YOU THINK THERE’S A CHANCE PHAEDRA WILL RETURN TO RHOA?

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