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Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval

It is awkward watching these Vanderpump Rules episodes leading up to Tom Schwartz and Katie Maloney’s wedding since their own friends are constantly trashing their relationship and questioning their decision to be husband and wife. I cannot even imagine how Tom and Katie feel watching it or even how their friends feel after saying what they have said – especially since Katie and Tom did actually end up getting married.

Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval opened up about that, as well as the gay speculation about them, the combined bachelor/bachelorette party antics in New Orleans, a stalker fan named Brian, and more, on the Daily Dish podcast.

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The podcast host told Tom Schwartz what Jax Taylor said about the group’s trip to New Orleans: “He didn’t see you sober once.”

Schwartz admitted, “I think that’s an accurate portrayal. I think it’s probably the hardest I’ve ever fallen apart in my life. It was cathartic and it was sloppy. It was a beautiful disaster.”

Yikes, man. That is not how I would ideally describe a vacation with friends, let alone a celebration of an upcoming wedding.

How else would the Toms describe the NOLA trip? Sandoval said, “It was super fun and amazing and also very like depressing.” Yikes. Again.

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Schwartz added, “It was contentious at moments,” and Sandoval threw out the word, “emotional” as a description. Schwartz even said, “It was a disaster. I’m having flashbacks.”

Do Katie and Schwartz watch Vanderpump Rules together? Schwartz admitted, “I can’t. I can’t watch the episodes.” I don’t even know what to say. Is Sandoval right? Is Schwartz actually a “battered wife?”

Schwartz clarified, “First of all, I love our show. I love watching it with Tom. I’ll indulge with Tom once in a while, but I just can’t do it. I can’t look at myself. It’s just so hard to watch yourself. I don’t know if it’s the same for everybody, but I just look at myself and I just hyper-criticize myself and I’m like ‘Oh my god. You’re a wreck.'”

I totally get that. I can’t watch a Snapchat video with my voice in it, so I can’t imagine how uncomfortable it would be to watch yourself on a reality show…fighting with your significant other. But I love how Schwartz is comfortable watching with Sandoval – the true love story of this show. This bromance is very genuine.

Speaking of the love between the Toms, they went off on a tangent about those “gay rumors” surrounding Joe Simpson, who made a random cameo appearance on the show for a photo shoot. Sandoval declared, “People say that about everyone. They say that about Ryan Seacrest, they say it about me, that say it about [Schwartz]. People like to speculate all kinds of different things.”

It’s honestly kind of ridiculous though. These are people who are in long-term heterosexual relationships. And not only that, but what’s up with homosexuality being a “scandalous” label? It’s absurd. People need to talk about something else instead of stereotyping someone based on their grooming habits or other frivolous factors.

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The interview took an unexpected turn when Schwartz discussed his biggest fan. “Shout out to my one stalker fan Brian. He’s been there since day one. He always comes to Watch What Happens Live. He’ll find out what hotel I’m in. It’s not creepy because he’s self-aware about it.”

I wish they didn’t bleep out Brian’s last name on the podcast. I am about to stalk the stalker and look through Schwartz‘s social media likes and comments for the name “Brian” just so I can see what this dude’s online persona is like. I would love for him to make an appearance on the show.

It seems like Sandoval has met Brian as well since he said, “He’s a really nice guy too.” And Schwartz interjected, “It curbs the creepiness.” Not only is Brian a nice guy, but apparently he’s pretty generous since Schwartz revealed, “He got me some cool socks and a beanie last time.”

It would be dope if Schwartz invited him to the wedding, but I couldn’t imagine that Katie would go for that. But with or without Brian, the Toms insist that the rest of the season will be amazing.

Tom Schwartz declared, “It’s a beautiful, beautiful disaster.” He even teared up when he described his wedding by saying, “Not everyone can say that they’ve had the best moment of their life documented. I’m the happiest I’ve ever been. I could cry right now.”

Well that gave me some hope that their relationship isn’t just the drunk fights that we see on the show. Obviously, I know that there’s more to that, but who knows if that’s love and harmony or actually just more arguing? Let’s hope that TomKat is actually in a much better place these days.

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But anyway, Sandoval emphasized, “I’ve said it before, but I think this is one of the best – if not the best – seasons of our show.” I beg to differ. There were some absolutely iconic episodes back when this was basically the Jax Taylor and Stassi Schroeder show, but obviously I love this show and I’m still tuning in every Monday night.

Still, Schwartz insisted, “I don’t say the word ‘epic’ anymore because I feel like it’s hackneyed or abused, but this wedding was epic.” And Sandoval finished things off by teasing the next episode, citing a recommendation from Lisa Vanderpump herself: “Lisa even said that next week’s episode is the best episode of the show’s history. I definitely agree with that in a lot of ways, but it gets even better after that.”

I believe that. The previews for the rest of this New Orleans trip look like a total shit show in the best way possible and I am beyond excited to watch all of that go down.

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